Site Rules

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Re: Site Rules

Postby AlgisKuliukas » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:27 pm

RobertRothbury wrote:
AlgisKuliukas wrote:
BanmeNow wrote:Was a thread deleted?


Not as far as I am aware. What thread did you have in mind?

Algis

Bad memory.

I was looking for a post and thought it was in a thread of its own. no harm.


No probs. When you have a memory as bad as mine you might start worrying!

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Waterside hypotheses of human evolution assert that selection from wading, swimming and diving and procurement of food from aquatic habitats have significantly affected the evolution of the lineage leading to Homo sapiens as distinct from that leading to Pan. (p118)
Kuliukas, A., Morgan, E. (2011). Aquatic scenarios in the thinking on human evolution: What are they and how do they compare?. In: Vaneechoutte, M., Verhaegen, M., Kuliukas, A. (2011). Was Man More Aquatic in the Past?
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Re: Site Rules

Postby Taxidea » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:09 am

Hey Algis! You around? How about cleaning up the commercial spam...
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Re: Site Rules

Postby CEngelbrecht » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:24 am

Chris here. Already on it.
Do report them when you find them.
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Re: Site Rules

Postby AlgisKuliukas » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:14 am

Taxidea wrote:Hey Algis! You around? How about cleaning up the commercial spam...


Thanks. And thanks, Chris too.

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Waterside hypotheses of human evolution assert that selection from wading, swimming and diving and procurement of food from aquatic habitats have significantly affected the evolution of the lineage leading to Homo sapiens as distinct from that leading to Pan. (p118)
Kuliukas, A., Morgan, E. (2011). Aquatic scenarios in the thinking on human evolution: What are they and how do they compare?. In: Vaneechoutte, M., Verhaegen, M., Kuliukas, A. (2011). Was Man More Aquatic in the Past?
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Re: Site Rules

Postby RobertRothbury » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:46 am

are these deletions being stored somewhere, so we can see what not to do.

i like to follow the rules, but the rules need to be published and their application documented.
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Re: Site Rules

Postby CEngelbrecht » Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:00 am

RobertRothbury wrote:are these deletions being stored somewhere, so we can see what not to do.

i like to follow the rules, but the rules need to be published and their application documented.


No, the violations that are deleted are not stored anywhere, except for a moderators reference log.
The rules in question are the Terms Of Use we accepted when creating our logins, pasting here for reference:

By accessing “Waterside-Hypotheses” (hereinafter “we”, “us”, “our”, “Waterside-Hypotheses”, “http://www.waterside-hypotheses.com”), you agree to be legally bound by the following terms. If you do not agree to be legally bound by all of the following terms then please do not access and/or use “Waterside-Hypotheses”. We may change these at any time and we’ll do our utmost in informing you, though it would be prudent to review this regularly yourself as your continued usage of “Waterside-Hypotheses” after changes mean you agree to be legally bound by these terms as they are updated and/or amended.

Our forums are powered by phpBB (hereinafter “they”, “them”, “their”, “phpBB software”, “www.phpbb.com”, “phpBB Group”, “phpBB Teams”) which is a bulletin board solution released under the “General Public License” (hereinafter “GPL”) and can be downloaded from http://www.phpbb.com. The phpBB software only facilitates internet based discussions, the phpBB Group are not responsible for what we allow and/or disallow as permissible content and/or conduct. For further information about phpBB, please see: http://www.phpbb.com/.

You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-orientated or any other material that may violate any laws be it of your country, the country where “Waterside-Hypotheses” is hosted or International Law. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned, with notification of your Internet Service Provider if deemed required by us. The IP address of all posts are recorded to aid in enforcing these conditions. You agree that “Waterside-Hypotheses” have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should we see fit. As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent, neither “Waterside-Hypotheses” nor phpBB shall be held responsible for any hacking attempt that may lead to the data being compromised.


An addition to these rules is the immediate deletion of commercial spam and permanent ban of the posting user's IP, this also including 'disguised' spam with misleading text to draw attention to a commercial link (this is quite common, unfortunately); this defined at the discretion of the moderators.
Also, obvious handle theft of pre-existing users elsewhere on the Internet (user 'dosed' posting on Talk Rational suffered such one recently, as described in the thread 'Us3rNam3z' viewtopic.php?f=2&t=52); handle theft as defined at the discretion of the moderators.
Related to this violation are obvious provocations in the choice of usernames, eg. 'A1g1sKul1ukas' or 'AlisterHardyWasNuts' or similar; again defined at the discretion of the moderators.

And to point out, disagreeing with the notion of something aquatic, waterside, amphibious, wet, etc. in human evolution is NOT a violation of the forum rules, neither is it to support this disagreement via civil argumentation in one's posts.
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Re: Site Rules

Postby AlgisKuliukas » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:54 am

CEngelbrecht wrote:
RobertRothbury wrote:are these deletions being stored somewhere, so we can see what not to do.

i like to follow the rules, but the rules need to be published and their application documented.


No, the violations that are deleted are not stored anywhere, except for a moderators reference log.
The rules in question are the Terms Of Use we accepted when creating our logins, pasting here for reference:

By accessing “Waterside-Hypotheses” (hereinafter “we”, “us”, “our”, “Waterside-Hypotheses”, “http://www.waterside-hypotheses.com”), you agree to be legally bound by the following terms. If you do not agree to be legally bound by all of the following terms then please do not access and/or use “Waterside-Hypotheses”. We may change these at any time and we’ll do our utmost in informing you, though it would be prudent to review this regularly yourself as your continued usage of “Waterside-Hypotheses” after changes mean you agree to be legally bound by these terms as they are updated and/or amended.

Our forums are powered by phpBB (hereinafter “they”, “them”, “their”, “phpBB software”, “www.phpbb.com”, “phpBB Group”, “phpBB Teams”) which is a bulletin board solution released under the “General Public License” (hereinafter “GPL”) and can be downloaded from http://www.phpbb.com. The phpBB software only facilitates internet based discussions, the phpBB Group are not responsible for what we allow and/or disallow as permissible content and/or conduct. For further information about phpBB, please see: http://www.phpbb.com/.

You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-orientated or any other material that may violate any laws be it of your country, the country where “Waterside-Hypotheses” is hosted or International Law. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned, with notification of your Internet Service Provider if deemed required by us. The IP address of all posts are recorded to aid in enforcing these conditions. You agree that “Waterside-Hypotheses” have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should we see fit. As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent, neither “Waterside-Hypotheses” nor phpBB shall be held responsible for any hacking attempt that may lead to the data being compromised.


An addition to these rules is the immediate deletion of commercial spam and permanent ban of the posting user's IP, this also including 'disguised' spam with misleading text to draw attention to a commercial link (this is quite common, unfortunately); this defined at the discretion of the moderators.
Also, obvious handle theft of pre-existing users elsewhere on the Internet (user 'dosed' posting on Talk Rational suffered such one recently, as described in the thread 'Us3rNam3z' viewtopic.php?f=2&t=52); handle theft as defined at the discretion of the moderators.
Related to this violation are obvious provocations in the choice of usernames, eg. 'A1g1sKul1ukas' or 'AlisterHardyWasNuts' or similar; again defined at the discretion of the moderators.

And to point out, disagreeing with the notion of something aquatic, waterside, amphibious, wet, etc. in human evolution is NOT a violation of the forum rules, neither is it to support this disagreement via civil argumentation in one's posts.


Absolutely.

It's really simple. Just discuss human evolution (and other subjects that are clearly not just for spamming purposes) openly and be civil to others.

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Waterside hypotheses of human evolution assert that selection from wading, swimming and diving and procurement of food from aquatic habitats have significantly affected the evolution of the lineage leading to Homo sapiens as distinct from that leading to Pan. (p118)
Kuliukas, A., Morgan, E. (2011). Aquatic scenarios in the thinking on human evolution: What are they and how do they compare?. In: Vaneechoutte, M., Verhaegen, M., Kuliukas, A. (2011). Was Man More Aquatic in the Past?
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Re: Site Rules

Postby RobertRothbury » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:30 am

So, I have no option but to trust the judgement of those who hold the powers of deletion.
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Re: Site Rules

Postby CEngelbrecht » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:27 am

Yeah, well, that's the standard of discussion fora.
And yes, it can be both good and bad, depending on the individuals handling such responsibility. Just look at thescienceforum.com.
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Re: Site Rules

Postby AlgisKuliukas » Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:26 pm

RobertRothbury wrote:So, I have no option but to trust the judgement of those who hold the powers of deletion.


Nothing has been deleted that is not either

a) Blatant spam.
b) Blatant attempt to bait/provoke.
c) Personal insults (but then the overall post has not been deleted, just the offending comments).

The vast majority (>90%) have been in category a). You can trust us not to try to censor any rational criticism of any idea here and you can also trust us not to allow people to slur others.

CEngelbrecht wrote:Yeah, well, that's the standard of discussion fora.
And yes, it can be both good and bad, depending on the individuals handling such responsibility. Just look at thescienceforum.com.


The alternative is the kind of "moderation" that exists on Talk"Rational" where people can make whatever unjustified slurs they like with impunity.

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Waterside hypotheses of human evolution assert that selection from wading, swimming and diving and procurement of food from aquatic habitats have significantly affected the evolution of the lineage leading to Homo sapiens as distinct from that leading to Pan. (p118)
Kuliukas, A., Morgan, E. (2011). Aquatic scenarios in the thinking on human evolution: What are they and how do they compare?. In: Vaneechoutte, M., Verhaegen, M., Kuliukas, A. (2011). Was Man More Aquatic in the Past?
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